- #Walther p38 cyq serial numbers serial numbers#
- #Walther p38 cyq serial numbers code#
- #Walther p38 cyq serial numbers series#
In 1945 the Mauser Code was changed to `svw`.Ĭlick to expand.I did read it.Looks convincing.But one thing he didnt consider in his report. In 'Pistols of the World' by Ian Hogg and John Weeks, they state that 'In the final months of 1943, another contract was given, this time to Spreewerk GmbH of Berlin, thier code groups being cyq and cvq.' Walther was ac, mauser was byf,Because a coding system was ordered by the German Army Weapons office in 1939 to prevent anyone from knowing where the weapons were made, denying the enemies any useful economic intelligence! At first it was numeric,(Walther's Zella Mehlis factory was 480) then changed in 1940 to alphabetic. Look at the Spreeworks section.He shows the Late cvq guns. Here are some pictures of my February 1945 Spreewerk manufactured P38. Although, it fits and functions definitely shows the character typical of Spreewerk's haste to manufacture and unskilled labor.
#Walther p38 cyq serial numbers serial numbers#
What I think makes my P38 interesting is that although the serial numbers on all the parts match, it has CVQ stamped in the slide and CYQ on the barrel. There has always been a controversy did they switch codes or did the stamping die break causing the 'Y' to look like a 'V'. Sometime in January of 1945, Speewerk switched from CYQ to CVQ as a manufacturer. So when the owner of my local gun shop said he had a P38 he wanted me to look at AND it turned out to be a Spreewerk CVQ.
In my research I learned about Spreewerk and the 'CYQ/CVQ broken die controversy'. My collection tends to be intentionally eclectic.Īn Enfield Number 2 Revolver made by a Scotish auto manufacturer, IBM M1 Carbine, etc. Cheers, ~ Greg ~.Ī few months ago, I was watching P38's on Gunbroker and doing the usual research that I do prior to buying a surplus weapon. I'm more than happy with my Spreewerke, so I'm sure I'll just end up spending more money on other things. I wouldn't mind adding a Walther made example to the collection at some point, but German guns aren't really a focus for my collection (prices are too crazy), so I doubt I'll go out specifically looking for one. The one and only P38 in my collection is also a Spreewerke example made in August of 1944.Īll matching, non-import marked. The plant originally made anti-aircraft guns, their machining equipment was not designed for small work, like pistols, thus the rough machining marks found on cyq P-38s. The army now demanded 10,000 pistols per month from Spreewerke, although this amount was never obtained.īy the end of the war Spreewerke produced around 285,000 P38s. In August they delivered another 300 for testing, and these were finally given the long awaited acceptance proof, (eagle 88). At the end of June 1942 they delivered 50 pistols for testing, which were rejected. The Spreewerke Factory at Berlin-Spandau was the third manufacturer assigned to produce the P38. and the u letter block.If gun is matching and bore is decent its worth about 750.00 IMO.Like Brodie said they have a rougher machine finish than Walther or Mauser but they are very collectable in their own right.The grips are different on cyqs than the other makers,having 5 broken lines around the grip screw instead of 6.The mag will have an eagle 88 mark on back of mag spine if the original mag.Here is my u block it has the later war "cog" hammer,does yours have this?I see yours has a milled slide hold open,not sure when they stopped that and went to the stamped one like is on mine but mine is a late u block.Brodies example is an r block and the milled hold open would be correct.cyq was the only maker to have a blued locking block,the other makers left them in the white.Walther Military P.38 Production Chart Year Qty.
#Walther p38 cyq serial numbers series#
It looks good,the grips(by the color) look to be original for a u letter block cyq.Probably made around sept 44.These went into the second alphabet series early b block before production ended.Check to make sure locking block has last 3 numbers of ser.
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